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		<title>By: E-learning Guidance Resources &#124; Association E-learning</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator>E-learning Guidance Resources &#124; Association E-learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ellen Behrens over at aLearning is fighting the good fight on that front, giving great advice, debunking myths, and arguing for the respect that association e-learning deserves. Best of all, Ellen actually runs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Random T.</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Random T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic is quite trendy on the Internet right now. What do you pay the most attention to when choosing what to write  ?</description>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will -- Thanks for the update! I&#039;m not surprised you haven&#039;t cashed out on your challenge, and don&#039;t expect you&#039;ll have to. I appreciate you providing links to your posts -- your work is critical for the rest of us to understand what the research really reveals about online learning.

Ann -- Ouch! Hadn&#039;t intended to poke anyone in the eye, but I&#039;m game to stir the pot. And I agree that less experienced learners usually need more expert instruction (which isn&#039;t to say the exchange shouldn&#039;t be as interactive as possible) than those more experienced, who gain more from open conversation and exchange with peers when problem-solving. Even so, we can all learn something from someone outside of our field of expertise, as I&#039;m sure you agree. 

James -- Thanks for your post, and welcome to aLearning! I&#039;m certainly no expert on crowdsourcing, but I&#039;d venture to say that these are probably examples of one form of it. Crowdsourcing has generally referred to calling on the minds of many for problem-solving and innovation. Here&#039;s another example: if you&#039;re on LinkedIn -- a social network site primarily for professionals -- you could post a question such as, &quot;Our organization is faced with picking one tee shirt from thousands; people vote, but we&#039;re not sure how to keep one person from voting over and over for their own shirt. Any ideas on how to resolve this?&quot; Then you&#039;re drawing on the wisdom of the crowd for suggestions. Better yet, see the book: &lt;i&gt;Crowdsourcing: Why the Power of the Crowd Is Driving the Future of Business,&lt;/i&gt; by Jeff Howe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will &#8212; Thanks for the update! I&#8217;m not surprised you haven&#8217;t cashed out on your challenge, and don&#8217;t expect you&#8217;ll have to. I appreciate you providing links to your posts &#8212; your work is critical for the rest of us to understand what the research really reveals about online learning.</p>
<p>Ann &#8212; Ouch! Hadn&#8217;t intended to poke anyone in the eye, but I&#8217;m game to stir the pot. And I agree that less experienced learners usually need more expert instruction (which isn&#8217;t to say the exchange shouldn&#8217;t be as interactive as possible) than those more experienced, who gain more from open conversation and exchange with peers when problem-solving. Even so, we can all learn something from someone outside of our field of expertise, as I&#8217;m sure you agree. </p>
<p>James &#8212; Thanks for your post, and welcome to aLearning! I&#8217;m certainly no expert on crowdsourcing, but I&#8217;d venture to say that these are probably examples of one form of it. Crowdsourcing has generally referred to calling on the minds of many for problem-solving and innovation. Here&#8217;s another example: if you&#8217;re on LinkedIn &#8212; a social network site primarily for professionals &#8212; you could post a question such as, &#8220;Our organization is faced with picking one tee shirt from thousands; people vote, but we&#8217;re not sure how to keep one person from voting over and over for their own shirt. Any ideas on how to resolve this?&#8221; Then you&#8217;re drawing on the wisdom of the crowd for suggestions. Better yet, see the book: <i>Crowdsourcing: Why the Power of the Crowd Is Driving the Future of Business,</i> by Jeff Howe.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Design by Humans or springleap.com be examples of crowdsourcing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Design by Humans or springleap.com be examples of crowdsourcing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Oliveri</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Oliveri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ellen

Thanks for poking us in the eye with a sharp stick! It&#039;s a bracing way to launch 2009.  

Let me add to the mix that no learning occurs without attention.  The overblown learning style idealogy all boils down to simply acknowledging barriers to learning, preferences that enhance the process.   

Many associations sell education products to those entering a field, distilling the critical lessons learned to master a subject or process, perfect for elearning applications. 

The rest of us focus on the other half of the equation--engaging practicing professionals to exchange ideas and determine what&#039;s working.  When you strip away pretense and power from annointed subject experts, learners are the teachers and that makes the association collective relevant.  

Sure, crowdsourcing is not how you learn to perform open heart surgery, but it is well suited to diagnosis, problem-solving and handicapping markets.  

Keep stirring the pot!

Cheers
Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ellen</p>
<p>Thanks for poking us in the eye with a sharp stick! It&#8217;s a bracing way to launch 2009.  </p>
<p>Let me add to the mix that no learning occurs without attention.  The overblown learning style idealogy all boils down to simply acknowledging barriers to learning, preferences that enhance the process.   </p>
<p>Many associations sell education products to those entering a field, distilling the critical lessons learned to master a subject or process, perfect for elearning applications. </p>
<p>The rest of us focus on the other half of the equation&#8211;engaging practicing professionals to exchange ideas and determine what&#8217;s working.  When you strip away pretense and power from annointed subject experts, learners are the teachers and that makes the association collective relevant.  </p>
<p>Sure, crowdsourcing is not how you learn to perform open heart surgery, but it is well suited to diagnosis, problem-solving and handicapping markets.  </p>
<p>Keep stirring the pot!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Will Thalheimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Thalheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, of course, my $1000 learning styles challenge is still open after 2.5 years.

Original Challenge:
http://www.willatworklearning.com/2006/08/learning_styles.html

One-Year Update:
www.willatworklearning.com/2007/08/learning-styles.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, of course, my $1000 learning styles challenge is still open after 2.5 years.</p>
<p>Original Challenge:<br />
<a href="http://www.willatworklearning.com/2006/08/learning_styles.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.willatworklearning.com/2006/08/learning_styles.html</a></p>
<p>One-Year Update:<br />
<a href="http://www.willatworklearning.com/2007/08/learning-styles.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.willatworklearning.com/2007/08/learning-styles.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -- Exactly! We&#039;re actually on the same wavelength about this. 

The difference between us and those who ascribe to the concept of learning theory is that they believe that training sessions need to be designed so that those who are &quot;visual&quot; learners are shown things; those who are &quot;auditory&quot; learners can hear things, etc. (see pages 51 and 52 in Tracey &amp; Edwards&#039; &lt;i&gt;Core Competencies in Association Professional Development&lt;/i&gt; as an example; note that earlier in the book the authors focus on the need to deliver training based on content, rather than learning preference, so it&#039;s unclear -- other than conventional thinking -- why more attention is giving to learning styles later). 

My rant advocates thinking twice about blindly accepting the theory as law, because doing so can create more harm and confusion than effective learning. The very notion of learning styles is what led to including audio narration, images, and on-screen text in elearning courses. Dr. Ruth Clark would tell you that&#039;s cognitive overload. Also a bad thing.

So how do we get it right? We consider what the learning outcomes need to be, and figure out how to get from here to there. In considering your son&#039;s dyslexia, educators will present content to him in ways that he can absorb it. But that doesn&#039;t mean his preferred learning style is necessarily kinesthetic -- it might be in some learning situations, while he might &quot;prefer&quot; auditory learning in others.

Your questions are what I was hoping to see after this post. Thank you for adding to the conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8212; Exactly! We&#8217;re actually on the same wavelength about this. </p>
<p>The difference between us and those who ascribe to the concept of learning theory is that they believe that training sessions need to be designed so that those who are &#8220;visual&#8221; learners are shown things; those who are &#8220;auditory&#8221; learners can hear things, etc. (see pages 51 and 52 in Tracey &amp; Edwards&#8217; <i>Core Competencies in Association Professional Development</i> as an example; note that earlier in the book the authors focus on the need to deliver training based on content, rather than learning preference, so it&#8217;s unclear &#8212; other than conventional thinking &#8212; why more attention is giving to learning styles later). </p>
<p>My rant advocates thinking twice about blindly accepting the theory as law, because doing so can create more harm and confusion than effective learning. The very notion of learning styles is what led to including audio narration, images, and on-screen text in elearning courses. Dr. Ruth Clark would tell you that&#8217;s cognitive overload. Also a bad thing.</p>
<p>So how do we get it right? We consider what the learning outcomes need to be, and figure out how to get from here to there. In considering your son&#8217;s dyslexia, educators will present content to him in ways that he can absorb it. But that doesn&#8217;t mean his preferred learning style is necessarily kinesthetic &#8212; it might be in some learning situations, while he might &#8220;prefer&#8221; auditory learning in others.</p>
<p>Your questions are what I was hoping to see after this post. Thank you for adding to the conversation!</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Patt, CAE</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>David M. Patt, CAE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This strikes me as a very peculiar debate.  Of course people have different learning styles - the issue is how, if at all, association education should deal with that.

I have a dyslexic child who learns very differently than other kids.  I expect his school to accomodate his disability - that will make a HUGE difference in his ability to learn.  I would not expect an association workshop session to accomodate his needs, though.

Associations communicate with their audiences in a manner they feel will be most effective for the largest number of people.

Association education is usually brief, intermittent, and informally structured.  Attendees often seek information they can utilize in their day-to-day work.  In my experience, they favor practical tips, visuals, and, when appropriate, hands-on learning opportunities.

Opinion leaders usually seek interactive venues where they can be participants.  Most others prefer passive roles offering interesting and informative lectures, with a bit of entertainment mixed in (this is the big debate issue in association education).

Hopefully, association leaders will utilize learning methods based on audience desires, not educator opinions of what audiences should desire.  What&#039;s the problem with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This strikes me as a very peculiar debate.  Of course people have different learning styles &#8211; the issue is how, if at all, association education should deal with that.</p>
<p>I have a dyslexic child who learns very differently than other kids.  I expect his school to accomodate his disability &#8211; that will make a HUGE difference in his ability to learn.  I would not expect an association workshop session to accomodate his needs, though.</p>
<p>Associations communicate with their audiences in a manner they feel will be most effective for the largest number of people.</p>
<p>Association education is usually brief, intermittent, and informally structured.  Attendees often seek information they can utilize in their day-to-day work.  In my experience, they favor practical tips, visuals, and, when appropriate, hands-on learning opportunities.</p>
<p>Opinion leaders usually seek interactive venues where they can be participants.  Most others prefer passive roles offering interesting and informative lectures, with a bit of entertainment mixed in (this is the big debate issue in association education).</p>
<p>Hopefully, association leaders will utilize learning methods based on audience desires, not educator opinions of what audiences should desire.  What&#8217;s the problem with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, David! As with many topics, a convergence of instances resulted in a blog post. In this case, the post is the result of discovering how unquestioningly the ASAE PD core competencies accept and promote the notion of learning styles. It&#039;s irresponsible to ignore a large chunk of viable research that speaks to another side of the issue. Seems to me if learning styles were all they&#039;re cracked up to be, then teaching to them wouldn&#039;t be the problem it is and getting to concrete learning outcomes would be a slam dunk, but that&#039;s not the way it is. Trainers and educators have struggled with ways to incorporate learning styles into their instruction -- their lack of success points to faulty theory. 

Where do you stand on the idea of learning styles, David?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David! As with many topics, a convergence of instances resulted in a blog post. In this case, the post is the result of discovering how unquestioningly the ASAE PD core competencies accept and promote the notion of learning styles. It&#8217;s irresponsible to ignore a large chunk of viable research that speaks to another side of the issue. Seems to me if learning styles were all they&#8217;re cracked up to be, then teaching to them wouldn&#8217;t be the problem it is and getting to concrete learning outcomes would be a slam dunk, but that&#8217;s not the way it is. Trainers and educators have struggled with ways to incorporate learning styles into their instruction &#8212; their lack of success points to faulty theory. </p>
<p>Where do you stand on the idea of learning styles, David?</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Patt, CAE</title>
		<link>http://alearning.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/learning-styles-bunk/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>David M. Patt, CAE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Ellen, what prompted this post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Ellen, what prompted this post?</p>
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